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Posted 07 July 2004 - 12:03 AM

Getting into DIY (Do-It-Yourself) CO2? Already have a setup? Either way, you should read this!

When the yeast feeds on the sugar in the water, CO2, or Carbon Dioxide is produced. The thing about this production is, it just keeps on going! If you were ever to block the flow, trapping the air in the system, pressure will build up until there is an explosion of pop-bottles, or what-have-you. It's important to make sure that the air is always allowed to escape into the aquarium, and that excessive pressure is never allowed to build up.

The second danger is what we call back-siphoning. Some times CO2 production will stop, due to whatever reason, and a vacuum will start to form. This will in turn start to suck the water from your aquarium down into your "generator" bottles, creating a siphon. Then, a lot of times, a leak might form, meaning that by morning, the water from your tank could possibly be all over your floor. To prevent this, ALWAYS use what are called check-valves. These can be purchased at almost any pet shop, and work by only allowing air to flow one way, but not back the other way. So, when in-line with your CO2 tubing, it will let CO2 go into the aquarium, but never allow air, OR water to travel back down the tubing into the system. Infact, you should use these with any air-tubing that could potentially start a siphon. Spend a couple bucks on this, and save a world of trouble from flooding smile.gif

You'll also want to check your levels now and then, especially when you're first setting up. Too high can hurt the animals, while too low won't help much. Bichirdude has posted a useful chart to find your levels by using KH and pH. Note that things like phosphates will make this test inacurate.

As for tubing, it really depends what you use when it comes to effeciency. Silicone tubing is so permiable (leaky) by CO2 that it could almost be used as a diffuser in a pinch :-P The traditional stiffer tubing is vinyl, by the way. As you can see from the chart, 20,132(silicone) is incredible compared to a mere 360 of vinyl. (The higher the number, the more CO2 is lost)

QUOTE (tubing permiability chart)
FEP @5.9
PTFE @ 6.8
PVC @ 6.8
Nylon @ 20
Viton @ 79
Polypropylene @ 90
Tygon Fuel @ 100
Polyethylene @ 280
Tygon Lab @ 360
Vinyl @ 360
Polyurethane (clear and aqua-tint) @ 395
Norprene @ 1200
Gum Rubber @ 1311
Tygon Pressure @ 2700
Tygon Ultra-chem resistant @ 4840
Silicone @ 20,132


Source: Cole-Parmer Tubing Guide


That all being said, welcome to the world of CO2 injection! wink.gif

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Posted 07 July 2004 - 03:23 AM

One thing I'd like to add here is that the concoction have a tendency to foam, so don't fill the bottle completely to the top unless you really want that stuff to travel into the tank.
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Posted 07 July 2004 - 12:43 PM

good write up those DIY kits can be a pain if your not careful. I know a few people who have had them backup in their tanks!

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Posted 07 July 2004 - 04:00 PM

Tobias: Yes, I'm sorry I forgot that! The 'general' rule of thumb is to fill the bottles to the start of the curvature. Infact, you can also make something called a gas seperator, or bubble counter... basically bubbles the CO2 through water, thus 'cleaning' it before it enters the tank. And of course then it's very easy to tell just how much CO2 is flowing at any given time. Very handy!!!

pufferdude: thank you smile.gif

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Posted 10 March 2005 - 11:17 AM

The chart on this site might help people keep track of their CO2 levels.

http://www.aquabotanic.com/charts.htm
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Posted 24 October 2005 - 11:35 PM

Edited the original post to include more info. Hope it's satisfactory.
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